Tuesday, 17 March 2026

The War of the Austrian Succession In Italy - the factions

A comment from the Jolly Broom Man himself made me realise that I had failed in my duty to explain the different factions involved in the Italian campaigns of the WAS. It is all rather confusing but the following should set the record straight, at least for the Spanish branch of the Bourbons.

Charles III (SpanishCarlos Sebastián de Borbón y Farnesio;[a] 20 January 1716 – 14 December 1788) was King of Spain from 1759 until his death in 1788. He was also Duke of Parma and Piacenza as Charles I (1731–1735), King of Naples as Charles VII and King of Sicily as Charles III (or V) (1735–1759). He was the fourth son of Philip V of Spain and the eldest son of Philip's second wife, Elisabeth Farnese. During his reign, Charles was a proponent of enlightened absolutism and regalism in Europe.

Got that? Charles VII of Naples in the game yesterday, was simultaneously King Charles III/V of Sicily, had previously been Charles I of Parma and Piacenza, and later became Charles III. More can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_III_of_Spain

Philip V of Spain (Chucky's dad) was the greatgrandson of Louis XIV of France, and inherited the throne of Spain in 1700 from the last Habsburg King of Spain (and kept most of the patrimony at the end of the War of the Spanish Succession: keep up at the back!). Not sure why there's uncertainty on the regnal number for Sicily.

One of the other characters in the game posted yesterday was the Duke of Parma, (not to be confused with the Duke of Parma and Piacenza, above) was this chap, who arrived late in the battle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_III_d%27Este

So we have the forces of the King of Spain (a Bourbon), backed up by one of his sons (the King of Naples etc). Elsewhere in the campaign is Phil V's 7th son, the Infante, Felipe. The guy with the French coming over the Alps. Why he was the Infante (sort of the Spanish Prince of Wales) when he was the 7th son I don't know, as he never ended up as King despite Phil V dying, and Phil V was succeeded by 2 of the Infante Phil's brothers. Anyway, this Phil was later Duke of Parma, Piacenza AND Guastalla. Are you still with me?

And don't forget, the French dynasty are also Bourbons. The Prince of Conti, the French leader working alongside Felipe the Infante in the Alps was also a Bourbon:

Louis François de Bourbon, or Louis François I, Prince of Conti (13 August 1717 – 2 August 1776), was a French nobleman who became the Prince of Contifrom 1727 to his death, succeeding his father, Louis Armand II de Bourbon. His mother was Louise Élisabeth de Bourbon, the daughter of Louis III, Prince of Condéand Louise Françoise de Bourbon, a legitimised daughter of King Louis XIV. His younger sister, Louise Henriette de Bourbon, was the mother of Philippe Égalité. As a member of the reigning House of Bourbon, he was a Prince du Sanghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Fran%C3%A7ois,_Prince_of_Conti As far as I know he was no relation to Tom or Nina.

Glad that's cleared everything up.

I'll deal with the House of Savoy (i.e. the Piedmontese/Kingdon of Sardinia) another day. After that I'll explain the Schleswig-Holstein question.

12 comments:

  1. Most of us wear a few hats Chris but Charlie wore a few crowns!

    And when you say they were all Bourbon, from the sounds of it, I assume they were drinking it?😂

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    1. It probably makes more sense after drinking.

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  2. Excellent.....Clear as mud......bit like the WotR. All those bloody Edward's, Stanley's and Nevilles!

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    1. WotR is a rabbit hole I WON't go down Keith.

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  3. Simples! Not.
    Thanks for initiating me into this arcane baroque world.
    Alan Tradgardland

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  4. This is actually fascinating. Kind of an 18th century version of Dynasty (sans Blake Carrington). Kidding asied, I'm looking very forward to learning where/how Schleswig-Holstein fits into all of this,

    Kind Regards,

    Stokes (Michigan, USA)

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    1. Ah Dynasty! This is more Die-nasty. As for the Schleswig-Holstein question, I refer you to Lord Palmerston’s remark:
      “Only three people have ever really understood the Schleswig-Holstein business—the Prince Consort, who is dead—a German professor, who has gone mad—and I, who have forgotten all about it.”
      Chris

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  5. Can’t understand why I was so damned confused. Clear as crystal now. Thanks for the explanation. lol. 😂

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    1. I knew you would catch on quick with a clear explanation.
      Chris

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  6. Thanks. I may need to refer back to this when reading future posts.

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    1. You have more confidence in this than I.
      Chris

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