The battle was fought out to a conclusion Tuesday evening. It took another 2-3 hours for 5 more turns. A total of 9 turns in 5 hours. So much longer per turn than I'm used to with the Twilight of the Soldier Kings rules for the 18th century. The game took longer too by an hour or two. Maybe that's because of lack of familiarity with the rules.
I left off last time with the French gaining the upper hand on the wings. On the French left they had inflicted more losses on the Spanish cavalry to even up the odds, but the French had retired back over the stream to lick their wounds. The Spanish were unable to follow them as their wing had become 'Fatigued', as had the Spanish on the other flank. In the centre the Spanish, led by the veteran tercios, had got slightly the better of things. Here is an account of Part II, with pictures and captions.
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| End of turn 4 in the centre. Spanish tercios had charged the French. |
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| End of turn 4: Some of the Spanish allies (probably German) had also charged the French |
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| Turn 5: Spanish tercio in the distance had pushed their French opponents back |
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| Turn 5: Right in the middle, the French infantry had fired on the Spanish battery, clearing off the gunners. Unfortunately my gunners are glued to the bases so guns and men have to be removed. A tercio advances to the attack. |
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| Hawk's eye view of Spanish veterans at the charge. These were mostly conversions from musketeers. |
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| On the Spanish right wing, their cavalry was successful in rallying (hence the disappearance of loss/disorder markers). The French cavalry, mostly out of shot, were doing the same thing. |

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Turn 6: French right. Only 1 battered Spanish brigade remains (circled). One French cavalry unit has gone haring off on an uncontrolled pursuit. They would be off board for several turns.
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| Turn 6: In the centre a French brigade is about to be attacked from two directions (left of pic). Action became rather confused after this, but the Spanish had the upper hand. |
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| Turn 6: French left. Having rallied the French begin to cross to the Spanish side of the stream again. |
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| Turn 7: In the centre the Spanish have caused the French line to buckle and Condé sent the reserve to help (bottom right crossing the stream). The Spanish veteran tercios are hard to defeat in IDV: they get extra saving dice so unless you inflict several hits in a turn things just seem to bounce off them like 2punders hitting a Tiger. |
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| Turn 7: One of the French brigades has been routed and it bursts through the reserve cavalry disordering them. |
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| Turn 7: further to the left another French brigade has been chased off back across the stream. At least behind the stream they come to a halt - linear obstacles cause routers to stop on the other side. |
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| Turn 7: But over on the French right some relief for the French as they rout the 5th and final enemy brigade. One French brigade is still off table in pursuit. |
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| Turn 7: General situation. Spanish and allies to the right of the line. Off camera to the right the Spanish have begun to refuse their infantry flank ready for the expected onslaught of French cavalry. |
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| Turn 8: Hawk's view again of the general situation with new French cavalry attacks left and right. |
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Turn 8: An oblique view of the same.
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| Turn 8: French right. One French cavalry unit has pursued a defeated Spanish brigade off table, whilst another has been bounced by the fresh enemy infantry. |
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| Meanwhile in the centre, the battered French unit circled manages to hold off and temporarily bounce the Spanish veterans! Behind them another battered unit marches back across the stream to avoid being totally wrecked and to allow French troops to come through. You really need to allow plenty of space between units! |
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| Turn 9: This looked to be the highpoint for the Spanish in the centre. They have inflicted enough losses on the French in the centre to 'Fatigue' the French infantry, meaning they cannot attack any more. But their flanks are vulnerable to French cavalry (see arrows). In addition 2 French cavalry units were due to return in the Spanish rear. |
At this point, the Spanish had to dice for 'General Will' (i.e. whether they had the morale to continue). The test was failed and they had to retire.
The IDV rules have a provision for calculating if there is a pursuit and if so what the damage caused is. Given the French preponderance in steady cavalry and a fairly involved dicing methodology, the Spanish ended up with a total of 8 wrecked brigades out of an initial 21, plus one captured general. A resounding French victory, but this time, the veteran tercios survived. Not the heroic end for Alatriste envisioned by Perez-Reverte.
Game looks great, I am resisting a foray into a new scale and period. I do have lots of 10mm WW1 unpainted if I just have to scratch that tiny itch…
ReplyDeleteAlan Tradgardland
The problem with a new scale is having to get mostly new terrain. 6mm and 10mm are close enough to share things.
DeleteWhat part of WW1 were you thinking of doing?
Enjoyable conclusion to battle, Chris. I really liked seeing your tiny troops in close up photos. Very nice collection!
ReplyDeleteCheers Jon. Pendraken do make nice figures. They are subject to scale creep though. The League of Augsburg cavalry figures which are a newer range, are noticeably bigger than the old ECW figures. It's hard to measure cavalry, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were as big as some of the 15mm figures from 45-50 years ago.
DeleteThese little figures really do look the business en masse Chris! A good win for the French, even though I would have preferred the Spanish to prevail!
ReplyDeleteYou can blame the Spanish defeat on those German, Belgian and Italian allies Keith.
DeleteI take my hat off to any man who’ll convert 6mm musketeers into pikemen at the charge. Top stuff.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't difficult Mark. They're 10mm so nearly twice as easy as 6mm. And it just involved snipping away the musket, the arms, and adding a blutack arm and wire pike. When painted at gaming distance you wouldn't notice.
DeleteStill fiddly diddly, and still deserving of kudos!
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DeleteQuite a long battle but clearly a lot of troops on the table and some complex fighting to resolve 👍
ReplyDeleteYes, it was definitely long. There are scenarios just as big in the rules, so maybe it's my lack of familiarity.
DeleteHi Chris,
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff! A proper marathon session, but a resounding French victory in the end once that cavalry threat hit the flanks. The table looked marvellous throughout—a grand fight!
All the best, Andy
Cheers Andy. Thanks for your support.
DeleteA crushing victory in the end for the French, super looking game and a very enjoyable read.
ReplyDeleteThanks Donnie. Glad you liked it.
DeleteMissed this one. Difficult to distinguish - probably a case for overscale flags! I can see why you went for specific headgear to tell them apart.
ReplyDeleteThe Pendraken LoA range are especially nice, but more like 11-12mm.
Neil
Flags don't help in this case. They're all English and I've long since forgotten which are Royalist and which are Parliamentarian.
DeleteGreat stuff - 10mm clearly allows for a 'proper big battle', with figures still quite 'visible'. I think I'm with the 'Spanish in helmets, French in floppy hats' team, mainly inspired by 'The Flashing Blade' on TV ( oh dear, the theme tune will now be on repeat in my mind..!). I think there was a historic quote that said the French army on its first campaign in 1636 or so was very showily dressed - surely more cavalier than roundhead - though they probably had that knocked out of them by 1643..
ReplyDeleteAs discussed offline, the book 'Rocroi 1643 - The Victory of Youth' by Stephane Thion is pretty good and gives useful OOBs, while discussing the many contested views of various memoirists and later historians!
Good point about the showy French.
DeleteRegarding a second go at Rocroi using M.Foy’s excellent rules, I’m struggling with the depth of the forces with the number of lines at the moment. But I’ll get there.
Thanks for the information from the book by the way.
Chris
Not sure if you’ve seen it matey but the film Alatriste (2006) covers Rocroi, and has some cool battle scenes in it.
ReplyDeleteI have and it does. Great film all round. I've been slowly working my way through the books (in translation). They're well worth a read and they inspired me to read the Three Musketeers (which I didn't finish) and make me want to read Don Quixote. So pretty inspiring!
DeleteA little factoid I came across about it. According to Spanish speakers in the bottom half of the internet (so I have no idea if it's true, but it sounds plausible) is you can tell Viggo Mortensen has an Argentinian accent.
What a marvellous looking game. 10mm is the ideal scale to fight a battle this size.The French did well, in the end.
ReplyDeleteCheers Ray. The Pendraken figures are great little models.
DeleteI don't think the Spanish really recovered from the initial set backs on the wings. Not sure if that's a feature of the rules or just one of those things.
Great looking game, dont think the Spanish could catch up,love the vetran pikemen conversions!
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
Cheers Iain. They were surprisingly easy to do despite the scale. Just a bit fiddly moulding the new arms. They don’t bear close scrutiny but they look OK on the tabletop.
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