In my last post on the subject of my proposed Po Valley Campaign for the 1740s I mentioned my next steps. Firstly:
- Identify orders of battle
- Set-out campaign objectives
So to tackle both of these I started reading. I read the relevant parts of the book below. And I searched on t'internet. I found this which gives a very brief, but useful overview of the Italian theatre in the WAS:
https://warhistory.org/@msw/article/the-war-of-austrian-succession-in-italy-1740-1748
I'd recommend it to anyone who's vaguely interested in the subject. I used it to draft a brief narrative. I wasn't able to find a lot of other resources in English on the subject. The usual rule seems to apply: if the Brits (and later Americans) weren't there it might as well not have happened in the Anglophone world. At least there is something on the subject - more than say on the War of the Polish Succession*. At least Britain had some involvement via the Royal Navy (and subsidies to belligerents) in the WAS in Italy.
It is another useful overview, of the whole WAS, with a section on Italy. There's LOTS more of interest on that site.
Wikipedia is pretty limited on the subject. And there are some dead ends. For example, you can find a Wiki page on the Second Battle of Casteldelfino (1744), but the link to the First Battle (1743) leads you back to the Second. But if you search in Italian you can find both, though to be fair, they are also brief. I've found before when searching for stuff for this period on Wiki that you can often find things in other languages when they are not available in English. Translation is relatively easy these days with all the tools available, but to be honest, a lot of it is fairly clear if you have a smattering of the language (or even a related language) and military terminology. I like to have a stab at reading it first then use a translation tool to check and fill in the gaps/correct my errors.
So, that lead me to this resource in Spanish:
https://arrecaballo.es/siglo-xviii/guerra-de-sucesion-austriaca-1740-48/
Naturally there is going to be a lot more available in Spanish as they were one of the major participants. Arguably, if it wasn't for the Spanish, there wouldn't have been much campaigning done in Italy. Austria had its own wish list but being occupied fighting in Germany and the Low Countries, it probably wouldn't have started fighting in Italy at that time, but for the Spanish Bourbon family's desire to acquire new territory. The Arrecaballo site has a handy little table of army strengths (although for France and Austria this includes numbers elsewhere). However, I am confident I can infer numbers from elsewhere.
So all of this reading has helped give me a better idea of what went on. I had a rough idea of campaign objectives but it helped expand on that and fill in a notable gap: the Austrian wish to re-gain the Kingdom of Naples. In addition I found a few maps which have helped me flesh out my sketch map. It still needs a bit of work but it's nearly there. I have quite a few notes to review and make sense of, which I'll be doing this week.
The main areas of the prospective game that I still feel are somewhat lacking are supply and intelligence. I want to have some simple rules/guidelines that are admin light but permit these important aspects to be 'modelled'. Somehow.
I'm aiming to get things ready for next week as the Margravina will be away and the youngsters are back at uni, allowing me a relatively free hand in the evenings. There is the small matter of a football match to go to, but knowing the weather forecast and the track record of that place, there's a good chance it will be postponed.
Better get cracking!
Interesting. As you say, there is not a great deal in English on the subject as it doesn't involve the British! Have you seen this: https://archive.org/details/defence-of-piedmont-prelude-napoleon It used to be hard to get hold of but has been on archive.org for a while now. Good luck with the campaign planning.
ReplyDeleteThanks David. Yes I’ve got the book. It was from one of these facsimile print on demand companies.
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I’ve utilized the Spanish site for help in scenario development. You can piece together OBs too. I have some other references as well. I will check next time I am back at computer. Do you have Reed Browning’s book?
ReplyDeleteI thought I had the reed Browning book but I checked my shelves yesterday and I don’t. Does it give much detail?
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Browning's book is likely the definitive guide of the war in English but the actual battle details are sketchy at best and maps not very useful for wargamers.
DeleteThanks John. I think I'll give it a miss for now. Prices on the book are not favourable at the moment (lower prices in the US are outweighed by the additional postage).
DeleteA shame you can't find more useful info Chris, but fingers crossed you have enough for your campaign. As for supply etc, just reading some more on the SYW after Hochkirk and leading up to Kunersdorf, the following might be of use:
ReplyDelete- An Army marched for 2 days, then rested for 1. This was to allow for rest of course but also for the baggage, bread etc to be able to keep pace. Freddy did force march his troops on occasion, but at the cost of losses to personnel on route.
- On the rest day, forces were sent forward to recce the gournd ahead, found out where the enemy were etc. Being 'blind' was naturally not good at all.
- All sides were worried about keeping their LoC open, especially to their magazines, and for the period mentioned, both sides were forced to withdraw to protect said LoC when they would liked to have been on the offensive.
Hope this might be of use?
I think I have enough to cobble together orbats. I'll have to :-)
DeleteThanks for the info the Hochkirch-Kunersdorf marching. Re-inforces what I thought. I'm swayed more towards a turn being a week rather than a day. In campaigning season of 200+ days that's still a lot of turns per year! Say 4 marches a week.
This is perhaps the bit that I enjoy the most. Finding information about a campaign and putting the 'pieces' together to suit my needs. The number of contemporary documents and books available now is amazing. Archive.org is a fine repository and academia.edu and research gate can be really helpful too.
ReplyDeleteEnjoy your researching and compiling!
Best wishes, James
I must have logged onto academia.edu somehow years ago, because I keep getting e-mails asking if such-and-such a paper was mine! I do enjoy finding stuff out, but I haven't got into primary sources (apart from copies of those maps and orders of battle on the Royal Collections Trust's site.
DeleteI wouldn't bother with the Reed Browning book - very general and not much use for the wargamer. If I can find it I will lend it to you via David B!
ReplyDeleteMost books are dedicated to say - Austro=Prussian wars in Silesia or about specific battles, be it Dettingen or Campo Santo. Fontenoy gets a disproportionate amount of attention in English.
Neil
Thanks Neil. That’s very kind of you. I will take you up on that. If nothing else it would be useful to see how it compares to the Anderson on the political side.
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